TREMAIN THE FINAL CHAPTER
I’ve decided to finally start to put together my thoughts about the situation, and more importantly, the outcome with the site at Tremain
I did originally say I planned to appeal against the decision that was made, but realised quite quickly that, in order for my appeal to be successful, there would have to be an acknowledgement that the tribunal judge had simply been incompetent…and being realistic, that was never ever going to happen.
I would start by saying that the outcome…the granting of the entire portion of the land to the Edwards did genuinely come as a massive shock, but following the actual tribunal itself, and my experience there, this was no surprise whatsoever.
I can honestly say that I never even considered that they would win, and more to the point, win everything. And if they’re being honest, I would imagine that the outcome came as a shock to them as well, not that I will ever get to know that. Just consider, having invested £30K, they then decide to cut the legal team loose, and rely on a son in law with no relevant legal experience to plead their case. There is however a very simple explanation for this, and one that the timing makes blindingly obvious.
There are two elements to this, the first is that, I made it abundantly clear that they could chase me as much as they want to for the ridiculous amount of costs they have incurred in this situation, but they’re only adding to those costs by doing so. You can’t get what doesn’t exist. I suspect they thought they would simply recover everything, and then had the huge shock of finding that there is nothing to chase.
What was very interesting is the fact that a few days after I published that info on this site, they then decided to part company with their solicitors, and fight the actual tribunal using their son in law…a career bureaucrat.
This would normally make no sense but it does when you realise that they must also have realised they had no realistic prospect of winning the case.
The fact that they did will be the subject of a much longer piece of work, which I don’t intend to do now, that will come later.
The reality is simply that they shouldn’t have had any realistic prospect of winning their case….AT ANY POINT! The evidence against them is simply overwhelming, and they were unlikely to be able to argue a case of Adverse possession as they simply didn’t have the background knowledge, or evidence to support it.
I should say, there was always a strong possibility they would get part of the land, that was never unlikely…but the rest.
And they used a very simple technique to achieve their goal….THEY LIED!! This shouldn’t come as any great surprise, it turns out that virtually everything they said right from my first meeting with them was a lie in some form or other. What I didn’t realise was quite how good at it they are…and how well practised..
The sad thing is that any competent judge should have realised that they were being played, unfortunately mine, an upper class middle aged woman with what appears to be absolutely no experience of land issues such as these, really didn’t, and fell for everything hook line and sinker.
Add that to a very powerful emotional message, in how upsetting it has all been…and all the fault of the appalling behaviour of the squatter….and it was all a done deal.
As for the evidence, Well that only matters if someone has the awareness to be able to read it correctly. And for that you have to have a combination of common sense and some experience of the countryside, neither of which was the case here.
I’ll finish with a couple of points
I have no issue with losing the case because someone has lied…that’s what the entire legal profession has to manage pretty much all of the the time. What is sad is that they, knowing full well they were lying, got a bunch of their well meaning, and probably deeply honest friends and neighbours to do the same, on their behalf. That is deplorable…
And if anyone lives locally and wants to check for themselves…go to the site, go behind the large pile of rubbish sitting about 30 yards behind the building, look closely on the ground and find the remains of the fence which is lying there, now very close to the surface and easy to see after they cleared the foliage off it. That will tell you what part of they land they believed they owned, and used in the past. Oh, and just look around you, anyone who lives in the country learns to read the land to some extent..now just compare how the different sections of the land compare to each other…it’s not hard to work out where animals have been kept…and where they definitely haven’t.
Then look about 30 further away into the dense brush on the other side….that is where they claimed the fence has been all along…and which I magically removed, dropping it where it now sits.
The alternative is to go to the garden machinery place and ask Geraint. On one of those occasions when he tried to be annoying(which he seriously is!!) he stood on the collapsed fence demanding to know where it was. Ask him where he was standing when he did that.
Oh, and now that I’m writing this, I would go and look soon. As soon as they read this, they’ll no doubt go and rip up what remains of that fence and destroy it….
You work it out
I’m adding a little recording I made on day 2. I do this cos I have a really poor memory and forget loads of stuff….so I record it. And in some ways this entire case was based upon what I was shown that day…and which was then denied thereafter.
The other thing is I’ve included the Trial Bundle…have a read..
Oh, and the system doesn’t want to offer a preview to see these so you’ll have to download them…sorry…
This may be a little more complex that I planned, the document is so huge, the site won’t allow it to be so I’ve had to break it into 4 sections. You just have to persist a little. I remember when this first arrived and it took me ages to download it…I was staggered…
Here is a copy of the charges incurred…as I stated previously…eye watering..
Here it is